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- Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #436
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- Info-Hams Digest Wed, 20 Apr 94 Volume 94 : Issue 436
-
- Today's Topics:
- 10 M repeaters ?
- 900 Mhz amateur band transmitter sources ?
- does a speech -> cw system exist? (2 msgs)
- HDN Releases
- Missing: Good HF Propagation
- Needed, Yeasu FL-101 manual
- Obtaining a MARS liscense
- Please Help With Dectector
- What's the best freq for underground radio? (2 msgs)
- WorldRadio Adr.
-
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-
- Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 18:16:22 +0000
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!demon!g8sjp.demon.co.uk!ip@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: 10 M repeaters ?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <1994Apr19.161507.20083@nenuphar.saclay.cea.fr>
- parnoul@gaap.saclay.cea.fr "Patrick Arnoul" writes:
-
- > As far as I know, we don't have any repeater in the 10 Meters
- > band down here in Europe.
-
- Soon, soon ... there are proposals with the relevant authorities for U.K.
- repeaters on 10M. One day, they'll get around to allowing them ...
-
-
- > Can someone give me some 28 Mhz FM repeaters location and
- > frequency in the USA, it could be worth monitoring them
- > from France when the band is open.
-
- Yes, I guess it could be. The ARRL Repeater Directory lists many, many 10M
- repeaters, with the most popular frequencies (as far as I can tell) being
- 29.62 and 29.68.
-
- > Thanks,
- >
- > 73 de f5hnk/Patrick
- >
-
- You're welcome :-)
-
- Good luck.
-
- --
- Iain Philipps
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 18 Apr 94 18:47:18 GMT
- From: agate!dog.ee.lbl.gov!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!psgrain!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!ncar!asuvax!pitstop.mcd.mot.com!mcdphx!schbbs!mothost!lmpsbbs!NewsWatcher!user@ucbvax.
- Subject: 900 Mhz amateur band transmitter sources ?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <2ohffj$ftq@scapa.cs.ualberta.ca>, edward@cs.ualberta.ca (Edward
- Mantey) wrote:
-
- > Where can I get a 900 MHz transmitter to experiment with direction
- > finding etc. I am considering tearing a cell phone apart if all else
- > fails (and a 900 Mhz cordless as well). Interested in all power
- > levels (well...almost).
- >
- > Thanx in advance
- >
- > edward@cs.ualberta.ca
-
- Cellular phones do NOT operate in the amateur band 905-925 MHz (looks funny
-
- now that the FCC has decided to allocate the top and bottom 3 MHZ ends to
- LEO
- Satellite-based vehicle location systems). They utilize 832 channels which
- run from 825-850 MHz transmit and 870-895 MHz receive.
-
- If you want to DF something, experiment with finding a cordless phone that
- is off-hook or try to accurately locate the nearby cellular transmitter
- towers. They are easy to spot to verify your observations.
-
- --
- Karl Beckman, P.E. < STUPIDITY is an elemental force for which >
- Motorola Comm - Fixed Data < no earthquake is a match. -- Karl Kraus >
-
- The statements and opinions expressed here are not those of Motorola Inc.
- Motorola paid a marketing firm a huge sum of money to get their opinions;
- they have made it clear that they do not wish to share those of employees.
-
- Amateur radio WA8NVW @ K8MR.NEOH.USA.NA NavyMARS VBH @ NOGBN.NOASI
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 18:14:36 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!news.ucdavis.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!tgm@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: does a speech -> cw system exist?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Andrew Mitz (arm@helix.nih.gov) wrote:
- : A ham radio operator friend is loosing manual dexterity due to
- : a debilitating disease. He enjoys using the morse code, but
- : will soon be unable to send. I want to adapt his PC so he can
- : send by speaking into a microphone (using voice recognition).
-
- : Questions:
- : 1) does an inexpensive system already exist aimed specifically
- : at this task?
-
- You need to get in a touch with a group called "HandiHams"
- [spelling?]. These folks have already implemented many designs
- that may be useful for your purposes. I don't have an address or
- contact person. Ask around.
-
- Thomas
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 19:02:56 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!cyber2.cyberstore.ca!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!ncar!csn!col.hp.com!srgenprp!alanb@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: does a speech -> cw system exist?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Andrew Mitz (arm@helix.nih.gov) wrote:
- : A ham radio operator friend is loosing manual dexterity due to
- : a debilitating disease. He enjoys using the morse code, but
- : will soon be unable to send. I want to adapt his PC so he can
- : send by speaking into a microphone (using voice recognition).
-
- My impression is that voice recognition software is not yet at the
- point where this would be practical.
-
- An easy alternative would be to use an audio detector hooked to a
- keying transistor. That way, your friend could whistle or voice
- the code directly.
-
- I have also heard of mouth-activated switches that handicapped
- people have used to send code.
-
- You might contact the Handi-Hams organization for ideas. I have
- the address at home and can bring it in if needed.
-
- AL N1AL
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sun, 17 Apr 1994 09:12:07
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!convex!seas.smu.edu!rwsys!ocitor!FredGate@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: HDN Releases
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- The following files were processed Sunday 4-17-94:
-
-
- HAMNEWS [ HAM: Bulletins and Newsletters ]
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
- ARLB032.ZIP ( 3874 bytes) 04/12/94 - Resolution gains
- majority
- ARLD020.ZIP ( 5270 bytes) ARRL DX Bulletin 04/14/94
- NEWS0409.ZIP ( 11679 bytes) NewsLine #869 04/09/94
- RSGB0417.ZIP ( 12587 bytes) RSGB Bulletin 04/17/94
-
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
- 33410 bytes in 4 file(s)
-
-
- HAMSAT [ HAM: Satellite tracking and finding programs ]
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
- ARLS019.ZIP ( 5002 bytes) 04/12/94 - STS-59/SAREX update
- ARLS020.ZIP ( 3895 bytes) 04/14/94 - Ham link for Space craft
- OBS105.ZIP ( 8307 bytes) Amsat Orbital Elements #105
- 04/15/94
- SATUPD18.ZIP ( 34801 bytes) Read NASA/AMSAT keplerian elements
- via packet to update F6FBB
- Satellite databa
-
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
- 52005 bytes in 4 file(s)
-
-
- HAMSRC [ Ham: Program Source Code ]
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
- WNOS5SRC.ZIP ( 516331 bytes) Source code for WNOS5, last updated
- 11/23/93
-
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
- 516331 bytes in 1 file(s)
-
-
- Total of 601746 bytes in 9 file(s)
-
- Files are available via Anonymous-FTP from ftp.fidonet.org
- IP NET address 140.98.2.1 for seven days. They are mirrored
- to ftp.halcyon.com and are available for 60-90 days.
-
- Directories are:
- pub/fidonet/ham/hamnews (Bulletins)
- /hamant (Antennas)
- /hamsat (Sat. prg/Amsat Bulletins)
- /hampack (Packet)
- /hamelec (Formulas)
- /hamtrain (Training Material)
- /hamlog (Logging Programs)
- /hamcomm (APLink/JvFax/Rtty/etc)
- /hammods (Equip modification)
- /hamswl (SWBC Skeds/Frequencies)
- /hamscan (Scanner Frequencies)
- /hamutil (Operating aids/utils)
- /hamsrc (Source code to programs)
- /hamdemo (Demos of new ham software)
- /hamnos (TCP/IP and NOS related software)
-
- Files may be downloaded via land-line at (214) 226-1181 or (214) 226-1182.
- 1.2 to 16.8K, 23 hours a day .
-
- When ask for Full Name, enter: Guest;guest <return>
-
- lee - ab5sm
- Ham Distribution Net
-
-
- * Origin: Ham Distribution Net Coordinator / Node 1 (1:124/7009)
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 19 Apr 1994 16:15:45 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!news.intercon.com!udel!news2.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.clark.net!andy@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Missing: Good HF Propagation
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Scott Richard Rosenfeld (ham@wam.umd.edu) wrote:
- : Missing: Decent HF Propagation. Last seen about 2 weeks ago, floating
- : through the ether at around 14.020 MHz. However, it has been slowly
- : going away for about 4 years, since I last worked India with my dipole.
-
- : If anyone should find my missing propagation, PLEASE send it to:
-
- : ham@wam.umd.edu or just send it in the direction of Burtonsville, MD.
-
- : I miss it very much, and would really like it back.
-
- Sorry, Scott (and the rest of you). I am responsible for your missing
- propagation. Couple of weeks ago, I got back on HF with a new 40m QRP rig,
- and took the liberty of borrowing your prop. I'll return it as soon as I
- get bored. -andy
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 19 Apr 94 14:04:18
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!news.mic.ucla.edu!ctc.com!news.pop.psu.edu!psuvax1.cse.psu.edu!news.cc.swarthmore.edu!netnews.upenn.edu!mipg.upenn.edu!yee@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Needed, Yeasu FL-101 manual
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Fox Tango was a newsletter published from 1972-1985 about the Yaesu line.
- Reprints are still available from IRC (except for 1974 and 1975). I just
- picked up a set as part of a group purchase.
-
- Conway Yee
- --
- Medical Image Processing Group | Conway Yee, N2JWQ
- 411 Blockley Hall | EMAIL : yee@mipg.upenn.edu
- 418 Service Drive | VOICE : 1 (215) 662-6780
- Philadelphia, PA 19104-6021 (USA) | FAX : 1 (215) 898-9145
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 15:53:23 -0400
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu!news.sei.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!dm3e+@network.ucsd.
- Subject: Obtaining a MARS liscense
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Can someone let me know what I have to do to obtain a MARS liscense?
-
- Any help would be greatly appreciated.
-
- Thanks,
-
- ++David
-
- David Markley
- Computing Services
- markley+@cmu.edu
- (412) 268-7816 (voice)
- (412) 268-4987 (fax)
- N3NZV
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 19 Apr 94 19:32:32 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news.cerf.net!news!Reza@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Please Help With Dectector
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I need to make a detector for a 5KHz radio signal. Essentially, there is a
- very weak transmitter (range of about 3 feet) that sends out a 5KHz
- electormagnetic signal. I would like to make a detector that makes a ttl
- logic 1 when this signal is present. I would like as few and as small
- components as possible. Is there anything I can buy off-the-shelf for
- this? Please be gentle with me as I am a software guy and not too heavy
- with electronics. Appreciate any help. --Reza N6YKP
- SkiBoat
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 18 Apr 94 19:02:41 GMT
- From: agate!dog.ee.lbl.gov!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!psgrain!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!ncar!asuvax!pitstop.mcd.mot.com!mcdphx!schbbs!mothost!lmpsbbs!NewsWatcher!user@ucbvax.
- Subject: What's the best freq for underground radio?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <2okl3v$eo@ccnet.ccnet.com>, rwilkins@ccnet.com (Bob Wilkins
- n6fri) wrote:
-
- > Timothy McNulty (ez045506@dale.ucdavis.edu) wrote:
- > : Question: What would be the best band for radio communication inside
- > : of caves. I've only tried 2 meters at 5w and had limited success.
- > : Would 6 meters be any better, 10 meters? On two meters I can get
- > : reasonable propagation down long tunnels and through a squeeze or two.
- > : I'm assuming that the signals are doing a lot of bouncing around off of
- > : the rock walls down there. Also, some caves seem to be a lot better
- > : then others.
- >
- > : Any one have any experience with underground radio?
- >
- >
- > : Timothy McNulty N6HFS tjmcnulty@ucdavis
- >
- > Next time borrow a couple of 1280 MHz portables. You will be surprised at
- > the propagation even using low power of 100 mw. There is more bounce.
- > Remember you are inside a waveguide. If the radio wave exceeds the
- > frequency of the waveguide there will be attenuation. Those mili-meter
- > waves will travel through a squeeze that is smaller than a large two meter
- > sized squeeze.
- >
- > Bob
- >
- >
- > --
- > Bob Wilkins work bwilkins@cave.org
- > Berkeley, California home rwilkins@ccnet.com
- > 94701-0710 play n6fri@n6eeg.#nocal.ca.usa.noam
-
- You will be very disappointed in the performance at 1280 MHz. Unfortunately
-
- the walls of the cave are not smooth and and not conductive, two very
- critical ingredients in the waveguide propagation formulas. In research
- conducted about 15 years go, it was predicted mathematically and then found
-
- by extensive testing that the conductivity of the wall material was very
- important in propagating the waves down a corridor. Although limestone
- mines
- had tunnels 20 ft square or more, the propagation was better in coal mines
- with shafts 5ft square. This was due to the coal being far more conductive
- than limestone. Surface roughness also greatly degraded the propagation,
- due
- primarily to reflection scattering from the rough surface.
-
- Don't forget that the UHF radio tends not to talk around corners or down
- crosscuts, just in very straight lines. It took some very large billboard
- reflectors to push signals down the crosscuts for even a few hundred feet.
- Basic safety recommendation: do NOT rely on radio as your primary safety
- device. Practice the buddy system and all other rules of spelunking safety
- so you can enjoy amateur radio the day after a good hike.
-
- --
- Karl Beckman, P.E. < STUPIDITY is an elemental force for which >
- Motorola Comm - Fixed Data < no earthquake is a match. -- Karl Kraus >
-
- The statements and opinions expressed here are not those of Motorola Inc.
- Motorola paid a marketing firm a huge sum of money to get their opinions;
- they have made it clear that they do not wish to share those of employees.
-
- Amateur radio WA8NVW @ K8MR.NEOH.USA.NA NavyMARS VBH @ NOGBN.NOASI
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 16:52:49 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!portal.austin.ibm.com!awdprime.austin.ibm.com!mcinnis@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: What's the best freq for underground radio?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <Co9ont.E5n@ucdavis.edu>, ez045506@dale.ucdavis.edu (Timothy McNulty) writes:
- > Question: What would be the best band for radio communication inside
- > of caves. I've only tried 2 meters at 5w and had limited success.
- > Would 6 meters be any better, 10 meters? On two meters I can get
- > reasonable propagation down long tunnels and through a squeeze or two.
- > I'm assuming that the signals are doing a lot of bouncing around off of
- > the rock walls down there. Also, some caves seem to be a lot better
- > then others.
- >
- > Any one have any experience with underground radio?
- >
- >
- > Timothy McNulty N6HFS tjmcnulty@ucdavis
-
- I hate to say it, but borrow a couple of CB walkie-talkies and try it.
- They're cheap, don't require licensing, etc. It should give you some
- idea whether longer or shorter wavelengths work better. You will also
- be evaluating AM vs FM. (I don't know which will be better in a cave.)
-
- At least, you won't be bothered by "10-4, breaker-breaker, good buddies"
- underground.
-
- --
- Mickey McInnis - mcinnis@austin.ibm.com (mcinnis@vnet.ibm.com outside IBM)
- --
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 20 Apr 94 03:52:11 GMT
- From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!cat.cis.Brown.EDU!noc.near.net!news.delphi.com!usenet@ucbvax.berkeley.edu
- Subject: WorldRadio Adr.
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Robert Redoutey <redoutey@bga.com> writes:
-
- >I am looking for the address for WorldRadio Magazine. Its a newspaper
- >type monthly. I need to post something in it, but can't come up with the
- >address. Can anybody help? (E-mail or Fax # would be fine too!)
-
- Worldradio, Inc.
- 2120 28th St
- Sacramento, CA 95818
- 916-457-3655
-
- John Kent/AA2DY
-
- ------------------------------
-
- End of Info-Hams Digest V94 #436
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